Ohio Gov. John Kasich will be on the stage in Wisconsin Tuesday night for the fourth Republican presidential debate, while better-know candidates like Chris Christie and Mike Huckabee were bumped from the main event.
Kasich joins Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, and Rand Paul on the stage in Milwaukee. For more on the debate and the Kasich campaign, WOSU's Steve Brown spoke to Ohio State University political scientist emeritus Paul Beck.
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