Gone to Pot? Legalizing Marijuana in Ohio

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Thousands of Colorado residents recently waited in long lines for the chance to legally buy recreational marijuana for the first time in 77 years. Pot is legal for medical use in 20 states, but Ohio is not one of them. This hour we’ll talk about the movement to decriminalize the drug in the Buckeye State, and why opponents say it’s a bad plan.

Guests

  • Ben Markus, Colorado Public Radio
  • Prof. David Courtwright, Department of History, University of North Florida
  • Mary Jane Borden, Vice President and Treasurer of the Ohio Rights Group
  • Tony Coder, Asst Director of the Drug Free Action Alliance

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  • Bruce

    I think it a great idea to be legalized

  • Amanda Lynne Haynes

    It infuriates me, as an Ohio resident, to not have at least medical use here. I have chronic pain everyday and need pain pills to ease only some of my pain, however, I can not go to the pain clinics anymore because I test positive for marijuana, therefore, leaving me in pain. I have went to doctor after doctor, with x-rays, and all doctor’s notes and every single one planned to put me back on my pain pills…then they get the urine test back and then I’m asked to leave and find another doctor. It makes no sense. I am happy that there is a natural product that I can take available to me, but unhappy that I am doing something illegal. I don’t understand why we have methadone clinics for people to “get off heroin” here in Ohio and Indiana. Of the people I know that go to those clinics everyday, they still do heroin when they can’t get to the clinic. What good are these methadone clinics really doing??? How many people a year die from heroine? Alcohol? Opiates? Tobacco? MARIJUANA??? For it to be a SCHEDULE ONE NARCOTIC, how many people have died from each one listed on the tier?

  • readyfred

    Just a shame they wont have the signatures to get it to the people to vote on. The Ohio Rights Group has set Ohio back 20 years.

    • Barbie

      Just another troll who was removed from ORG because of past behavior.

      • readyfred

        I was never part of ORG so I was never removed. The fact is you don’t and wont have the signatures to get this on the ballot in 2014. Just not going to happen….sorry!

        • Barbie

          You got a better idea? Nope. Just another troll. Go crawl back under your rock. Sorry your so pathetic and miserable. Well, not really……..

          • readyfred

            Well bring that petition under my rock and I will sign it. Oh wait…no one is collecting them? Just because someone thinks ORG is a total fail, and it is, don’t make them a troll. You don’t and wont have the signatures needed.

          • Michael Revercomb

            How exactly has the Ohio Rights Group set the state back 20 years? The only groups working towards legislation in this state are the ORG and Ohio NORML as a support group. So they are the only people working towards change in the buckeye state. I don’t see anyone else working towards it. People are quick to forget that no ballot initiative, regardless oof subject, has ever made the Ohio ballot let alone won at the ballot without signature collection funding. That is not going to change with a controversial subject like cannabis legislation. So what exactly are you doing to change the laws if you think the ORG isn’t the right approach?

          • readyfred

            The only reason that ORG is the only group working towards legislation in Ohio is because they cut the throats and belittled anyone else that was trying to move forward. After they killed any other hope, they dropped the ball and nothing got done. Now here we are again and it’s the same BS. ORG talking the big talk and doing nothing to move forward. They post useless information and say send us money. Again, they don’t and wont have the signatures needed to get this on the ballot. Sorry to bust your bubble…just not going to happen. PISS POOR LEADERSHIP!!!

          • Leanne

            I will gladly bring you a petition. When and where?

          • readyfred

            1 capitol square, Columbus, 401 Main ST. Zanesville, 224 East Main Street Lancaster, 1 north Park Place, Newark…Just tell everyone which county courthouse you will be set up at? How about a state wide courthouse date? How about you show everyone how it’s done?

          • Michael Revercomb

            I was as involved with the OATA, and EOCPA initiatives as I am with the ORG. Without a doubt the ORG has the best direction, concept, goals and leadership. You ignore the concept of Ohio ballot initiatives being the most restrictive in the country. You ignore that no initiative regardless of subject has ever made our ballot let alone won without signature collection funding. The ORG is on courthouses, at shopping centers, events and campuses every day of every week. But you aren’t gonna collect 500,000 signatures with 200 people and that is a failure of those unwilling to act, not those leading the charge. With all due respect I’m not a leader of the ORG but I have and will continue to have a leader’s role in the Ohio cannabis movement and the Ohio Rights Group has better direction than any other initiative I’ve been a party to.

          • readyfred

            Pretty much saying what I have been saying. You don’t and wont have the 500,000 signatures. Maybe you and your group need to stop and think why you only have 200 people collecting signatures. Could it be the bib headed leaders ears were to small to listen to what the average person was saying?

  • Amanda Lynne Haynes

    @readyfred:disqus Why do you think they won’t have the signatures?

  • done111

    Can’t take a toke because ORG is a joke!!

    • Michael Revercomb

      So whats your better idea for how to change our laws in Ohio? The ORG is by far the group with the most support and progress here in Ohio. I’m thinking the bigger problem is a lot of people who want to see the laws change, but don’t do anything about it except complain about it on the internet. When was the last time you donated time or money to the effort for buckeye state legalization?

      • done111

        I donated the last time around but it went up in smoke. PARTY LIKE A ROCK STAR!!

  • Lillbill

    It is so sad when you have the support of a whole state and a group like ORG gives out false hope.

    • Michael Revercomb

      It isn’t false hope to actively work towards something. If it wasn’t for groups like the ORG there would be no progress whatsoever. I don’t see the green’s or libertarians actively supporting law changes and you sure as heck aren’t gonna get it from the dems/reps in our statehouse. So what is your idea of change?

      • readyfred

        It is false hope for people with real medical issues. Poor leadership has stopped it dead in it’s tracks!!

        • Michael Revercomb

          Well seeing as it is the most successful marijuana initiative this state has ever seen I’m gonna disagree with you on it being dead in the water. It’s false hope for people with real medical issues because a huge majority of those very people aren’t willing to come out in support verbally, physically when they can and financially if they have it. In this state there are thousands of people who have secretly utilized cannabis to get through an illness, often because their financial and employment stature wouldn’t allow them t do so. But I don’t see those people donating money to the group. No ballot initiative has ever made the Ohio ballot let alone win without signature collection funding. Even SB5 had signature collection funding. There are millions who support it. But only a few hundred who are actively out there collecting signatures. That isn’t a failure of ORG leadership. Ohio cannabis legalization is on local media almost daily whether it be radio, television or print. Every day it is on local social media and almost every time the ORG is mentioned. Anyone with any interest in helping the fight to legalize cannabis for medicinal purposes can find out about the ORG in 5 minutes. The problem isn’t leadership in the ORG, the problem is a complacent society who doesn’t realize this is one of the problems in the world that we can actually change rather quickly if we just take the time to do so.

          I will leave you with exhibit A of my argument…….. the fact we are having this conversation on Central Ohio’s largest progressive radio website because the president of the ORG was on Ann Fisher’s radio show this morning. Seems to me the Ohio Rights Group is doing a pretty decent job of reaching out to people, the issue now is whether they reach back.

          • readyfred

            No need for anyone to put their neck on the chopping block for a group that was a fail from the start. Wonder how many people has been arrested for coming out for ORG and saying I smoke pot to help with my medical issue. That is just like calling your local sheriff’s department and giving them directions to your house. ORG made the promise that they would get this done and that is not going to happen.

  • Michael Revercomb

    In 2010 (and every year since) the National Institute on Drug Abuse has released it’s annual drug survey showing that cannabis is in fact more readily available for children than alcohol or tobacco. This is because of honest campaigns and increased regulations on the sale of alcohol or tobacco to minors. The same approach should be taken towards cannabis and parents/grandparent/teachers/ police officer/religious leaders and community leaders should be leading the approach to create a regulated market to deter sales to children.The truth is regulated store owners will ID children before selling them cannabis, drug dealers NEVER will.

  • Ekim Namwen

    I hate to be a party pooper, but ORG is doing more harm than good. They are collecting money knowing full well that they won’t succeed. Their only interest is money and self-aggrandizement.

    MJ and Kenny and crew are a joke. They have no transparency with how they spend and receive money. They most likely just pocket the donations they receive.

    The egos of those leading ORG have alienated A LOT of smart, talented people interested in helping out. The leaders are lazy and incompetent. It would be better if no one were trying to get an initiative on the ballot rather than a bunch of egotistical idiotic clowns trying to do it.

    • Treasurer@OMCA

      What do you mean by no transparency? Are you referring to the OMCA PAC? It was folded in May 2013. Complete disclosure of its income and expenses in detail and in compliance with Ohio campaign finance law can be found on the website of the Ohio Secretary of State at http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/cfonline/f?p=119:39:0::NO:RP:P39_ENTITY_ID,P39_LISTTYPE:13515,simple

    • Barbie

      Aren’t you Mike Newman and weren’t you asked to leave ORG because you couldn’t get along with the other members? All you did was call people names when you could not get your way. Very childish, indeed.

      • Ekim Namwen

        You really should get your facts straight. No one asked me to leave. I left this shady group after realizing everyone in ORG are a bunch of dishonest clowns that dont have a clue about what they were doing. They have overblown egos and are only interested in their own personal gain.

        There is a long list of people that theyve alienated, not just me.

        • Barbie

          Nope. Sorry. You were asked to leave. You and your buddy slammed everyone’s efforts and were telling everyone they were wrong. The group tired of your whining and insults and off you were sent. Admit it, you just don’t play well with others.

          • readyfred

            This is unimportant! ORG still can’t show a signature count and is and will be a big fail! If your goal is to collect a amount of something, shouldn’t you keep track of that something?? ORG don’t and wont have the signatures to get it on the ballot. Total rerun of OMCA2012!!!

          • Ekim Namwen

            Ha. Barbie you’re just as delusional as them. There’s a reason why ORG has to take desperate measures like getting Cheryl Shuman involved or exploiting sick kids and it’s because they have no clue what they are doing and they are in way over their heads. Any money they raise is as good as being flushed down the toilet.

          • readyfred

            ORG gets called out and they can’t answer the call!!!

  • Enlightened Dynasty

    I would like it to be legalized but I live by the lake and I can tell you half of the people here don’t know about the initiative and the other half work 7 days a week. Ohio was not even on AOL’s top 16 states to follow marijuana legalization. Ohio is still trying to be pure despite finding 3 girls locked up for 10 years and letting a individual keep exotic animals on a farm with a fence to hold horses. I can agree with why it shouldn’t be legal due to idiots exploiting stupid behavior. But I can also disagree by saying it has been to long and we’ve bankrupted out country with a failed war on drugs agenda.

  • done111

    8000 people like the facebook page….18 people liked this posting. Now thats a joke :)

  • readyfred

    Signature count?….why can’t you answer the question? Everyone needs to be asking this on ORG’s facebook page. No support, wonder why? Everyone needs to be asking this question!

    • Ekim Namwen

      The truth is that they dont have a signature count b/c the petitions are sitting in a huge pile uncounted. Pure laziness and incompetence. I guarantee they have less than 50k signatures and less than 50% of those are valid. They need at least 950,000 more signatures by July to make sure they have enough valid signatures. Who are they kidding? Theyre a joke.

      • Lillbill

        I heard it was under 30,000 but thats just hears say.

    • Ekim Namwen

      Another question everyone should ask is why did their superstar Cheryl Shuman
      leave ORG and not want anything else to do with them?

      • done111

        Didn’t take her long to figure it out. Collect her cash and didn’t look back!!

  • Lillbill

    ORG is done !!!! Total fail !!!